41 thoughts on “Obama vs. Clinton – Debate Night!

    34phil said:
    February 23, 2008 at 9:41 am

    they were fighting like so much on tv. i mean it was harsh to watch. but it was boys verses girls and obama will win that battle.

    wwisecup3991 said:
    February 22, 2008 at 10:50 pm

    I watched the debates and all I can say is Hillary just give it up and let the Man do his job. You have said the same things over and over and it’s only words. If you are so great, why didn’t you do something GREAT when you lived in the whitehouse?

    This is a scary time for all of us what with Iraq and all the soldiers lives at risk. Obama says he will bring them all home now, and she says the same thing, “day one” is her favorite saying but they are going to have their hands full.

    I don’t think either of them are in a position to act as our “Commander and Chief”, but if I had to chose between the two of them, I would chose Obama, I can’t bring myself to vote for someone that has not served in any of our Military services, no matter that they are both Senators.

    The military life can only be changed for the better if they know from experience how it works! So we are forced to vote for Mr.McCain. We are STRONG supporters of our MILITARY, and right now it is stretched toooooo thin. We need to bring ALL of our troops home NOW, but in reality, that is NOT going to happen.

    The CLINTONs are the ones that have cut our Military down so far that one of my friends hubby has been there FOUR times (and he’s there right now!) He has over 20 years in the service and when he put his paperwork in to RETIRE they turned him down.

    This is the biggest slap in the face for anyone serving our country in Iraq.

    We need someone with some big cahoonas to bring our TROOPS home now!( that’s not going to happen!) They are all going to make promises that anyone with even a hint of intelligence knows, that they can’t keep!

    I love President Bush and if you ever read these messages, Please get our soldiers our of Iraq. Charity begins at home!

    Thank you. Wanda

    yyenterprise said:
    February 22, 2008 at 10:01 pm

    It seems to me that senator Clinton may soon out of the race.

    Lee

    http://www.ytbtravel.com/xiong

    blainegarner said:
    February 22, 2008 at 9:38 pm

    Is this discussion making you feel sad and despondent? Read my blog and laugh away your sorrow!

    John said:
    February 22, 2008 at 8:44 pm

    I found this debate very painful to watch!

    -John
    http://www.patrioticactivist.com

    Barakutei Yanaouko ah Baguanamey said:
    February 22, 2008 at 8:31 pm

    WOW!!! Looks to me that people do know what the rest of us have always known and are voicing their views… Excelent. I, too will vote for Mr. Barack Obama. I’ve felt since the very beginning that he is the best candiate for the U.S., as he can and will restore the U.S. dignity around the world. I am out of the country now, but come the elections I will be there just to vote for the next President of the U.S.A., Mr. Barack Obama.

    Raile Cantonwine said:
    February 22, 2008 at 7:50 pm

    Holy Spamosa PollY! You are SUCH a nerd. Anyway, I hate Clinton, she’s the she-devil!!!! I’m moving to Switzerland if that witch wins the election. Bama is awesome.

    34phil said:
    February 22, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    LETS GO OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!!

    plasticpumpkin said:
    February 22, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    This election is really breaking boundaries. My greatest hopes go out to both candidates for being strong and fearless!

    matthewainsley said:
    February 22, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    It seems that Obama has the momentum. If the game stays the same, Obama will be our next President. However, if we know anything, we know that the political winds can shift in an instant (case and point–Howard Dean).

    Warwick said:
    February 22, 2008 at 6:12 pm

    Here’s what I think. It’s pretty simple.

    Even if your policy is right, implementing it over the objections of half the congress and half the nation is not heroic. It is foolhardy. A political process where razor-thin margins decide between dramatically different policy outcomes is unstable and dangerous. Consider the sequence of events which began with the hanging chads in Florida and ended with our current predicament in Iraq.

    If I had to choose between a congress packed with champions for single issues, and a congress consisting of politicians with differing life experiences and a willingness to promote consensus, then I would choose the latter.

    I would also choose a president who emphasizes those things that unite us. Republicans, Democrats, Greens, Independents, Libertarians
    would all agree that the Declaration of Independence is a wonderful document: these truths we hold are self-evident, that we are all created equal, that we all have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness… There is nothing here about “family values”, “compassionate conservatism”, or even “social services”. What unites us are the core American ideals set out in the Bill of Rights (except the 2nd Ammendment); not these latter-day ideas.

    Our problem is that our politics has become dominated by policies. Politics should not be only about enacting policies by whatever means. It should be about drawing on our collective wisdom to develop policies which most of us (not a bare majority) can agree upon.
    If you are a Democrat, find a Republican and try to understand why they hold their views. If you are a Republican, find a Democrat and try to understand why they hold their views. Then try to find a list of important things that you can agree upon. Try it. It is much more fun than talking to someone who basically agrees with you.

    The most important thing is not to tune out. Pay attention, and demand more of our politicians. Become educated. It is said that a nation gets the government it deserves. I say a nation’s government is a measure of its people. We should all be very embarrassed. As Obama says, we need to do better.

    At the moment, I think Obama is the best choice for our next president. This is because he seems to be the only one who realizes that it’s not just the policies we implement that is important. The process is also VERY important. However, I have been very wrong before, and judging from the recent polls that say most people NOW oppose the war and think President Bush has done a poor job, many of us have been wrong before. Be honest – have you made political choices which you now regret? If so, then remember this the next time you are tempted to insult someone who holds opposing political views.

    We are all each other’s insurance. Think of the process whereby we choose our next president not as a competition between a couple of opposing ideologies, but as a process in which we are working together to get the best next president. I for one am pleased to be one of many who will choose the next president. Who among would like the responsibility of making the choice alone?

    Angry Chinese Driver said:
    February 22, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    The Clinton camp is all about negative attacks, even since they were the frontrunner.

    Obama’s campaign has always focused on positive change and hope.

    That says a lot, doesn’t it?

    Carol Marcondes said:
    February 22, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    It’s really complicated to choose… But I think Obama is the best choice to USA in this moment.

    Miss SW said:
    February 22, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    I completely agree Kit Kat. Hillary needs to stop the petty jibes and get on with it. Obama is looking strong in my opinion and he could win it…I’m rooting for Obama!

    kit kat said:
    February 22, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    I think it is time to change politics and stop mud-slinging. It is for children and it is time to grow up Hilary. I am so over it. You could argue all night over who said what and did what but in the end you’ve just wasted our time. I’m voting for a man who is a human being first and a politician second.

    Super Obama said:
    February 22, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Obama’s confidence is very refreshing!! Hillary just leaves a bad taste in my mouth!

    rebelnate said:
    February 22, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    obama is gay with bill

    Janice said:
    February 22, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    I was so glad to see that Obama stayed “Presidential” and did not acknowledge the “xerox” Statement! He handled it great!
    It will be a great feeling to see OBAMA representing our Country, especially replacing the one we have now!

    politicalnighttrain said:
    February 22, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Political Night Train watched the debate last night and saw a defeated Hillary. Everything, from her tone, dress, body language, even the message signaled defeat. And to top it off, at the very end, when Obama rose, he pulled Hillary’s chair back and she didn’t immediately stand up. She got a short little ride, feet dangling off the floor, because the chair was raised to max height to make her look as tall as possible. Poor Hillary, nothing left (no pun) but Bill.

    Diane said:
    February 22, 2008 at 9:51 am

    It’s been a long time since I felt such pride in two democratic candidates. I’ve watched every debate and have observed Obama’s growth in that forum and Clinton’s softening as she’s been humbled over the past few months. I thought they were both excellent and am simply amazed that we have two fantastic candidates when a year ago, I thought the party was doomed. That said, I’m an Obama supporter because I believe he stands the best chance of uniting all of us for the common purpose of making our country the best it can be once again. He understands that doesn’t mean being the most arrogant and self absorbed country on the planet, but rather the strong, compassionate and just society our founders meant us to be. I appreciate reading everyone’s comments here. It’s exciting to be part of this process. I especially love that so many young people have gotten involved. For what it’s worth, at 57 (middle class causcasian female), I’m not one of them.

    ISAAC said:
    February 22, 2008 at 5:47 am

    I want to live in a world where Obama is the American President. This is the true quality required of a world leader. I can’t wait to see Obama come to England for a presidential visit. ( Democrat abroad). It was starting to become embarassing and at times risky to be American abroad due to the disastrous foreign policies of the Bush administration which Hillary has happily been supporting. This debate proved that when it comes to leadership, washington or being first lady is not the best source of experience.

    pixal said:
    February 22, 2008 at 5:31 am

    Hillary had 2 things, the bread, a great opening line and a great closing line.
    Obama had the sandwich fixings in the middle, all the beef.
    By the way Hillary’s closing line sounded a lot like John Edwards::
    ***************
    Clinton

    You know, whatever happens, we’re going to be fine. You know, we have strong
    support from our families and our friends. I just hope that we’ll be able to say
    the same thing about the American people. And that’s what this election should
    be about.?
    ********************

    Edwards the December 13 debate:

    ?What’s not at stake are any of us. All of us are going to be just fine no
    matter what happens in this election. But what’s at stake is whether America is
    going to be fine.?

    anethe said:
    February 22, 2008 at 5:29 am

    All i can say is that OBAMA kicked ass… And what was Hillary talking about “we will be fine“, that sounds like she she finally getting a reality check that she is loosing. And that attitude of hers, thinking that she deserves to be the next President of USA, talking about having experience… pleeeassse… Your husbad have experience… You two are different people darling…

    YES WE CAN… Change is here.
    OBAMA heading to the White House

    christofer said:
    February 22, 2008 at 1:38 am

    Sen. Obama not only stayed ahead of Hillary. He destroyed her tonight. She wants all of these debates to tell everybody how similar they are?
    This was ridiculous. Then she flopped out that horrible bomb of a statement” Change you can xerox”. That statement even got boos from her followers. Then she ends the night by basically quoting John Edward’s “We will be okay, but will the American people”. John Edward’s statement was just as close as Obama’s. But Obama was told from him friend to use this line. She ripped off John. And HER CAMPAIGN WANTS TO TALK ABOUT USING YOUR OWN WORDS????? This is just the beginning of all of the Scandals if we elect the Clinton.

    THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE:
    Clinton- The Democracy of Hippocracy
    Obama- The Nation of Communication
    McCain- The Ploy to Destroy

    Steve Bremner said:
    February 22, 2008 at 1:14 am

    Both of them are honorable and both of them would make an excellent president. No repug in the current constellation of politicians deserves to even be in the same room with them let alone the same race for the presidency.

    Tonytown said:
    February 22, 2008 at 1:02 am

    CNN should have had their facts checked before these debates. On earmarks, Hillary never answered the question but criticized McCain. She should have been nailed on fiscal accountability and had to confess that she tops the 10th senator on earmarks. Obama has made his earmarks public and CNN had an article on this, also is widely known that his TAX declarations are public, why hers aren’t??? These matters folks! I wrote to CNN but they ignored my comment.

    j acqueline said:
    February 22, 2008 at 12:58 am

    Barack convinced me tonite…I think he really loves this country as much as we the people do…..and forget about political speak.

    Professor Bestman Larmena said:
    February 22, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Senator Obama may not be the most experienced Presidential candidate in terms of Washingtonian politics, but he has the ability to find solutions to the problems that all Americans face due to the fact that he can inspire and unite all races to get involved for a better America. America is too great to face another recession, too diverse to be divided, and too rich in democracy to allow a hand full of few greedy Americans to decided where we are headed.

    jeff said:
    February 22, 2008 at 12:21 am

    crap, why do I always type don’t, don;t?

    jeff said:
    February 22, 2008 at 12:20 am

    Obama won the debate. Even if Hillary did better (which she didn;t), he didn;t beat himself, which is all he had to avoid.

    In terms of foreign policy, one thing I think will be relevant is that foreign leaders will HAVE to work with Hillary, while I think they will be falling over themselves to work with Obama.

    doug said:
    February 22, 2008 at 12:17 am

    What a nite for Obama. Never enjoyed a debate before. It’s such a historic debate which will put billary in to history book.

    So inspired and fired up.

    Dave said:
    February 22, 2008 at 12:14 am

    The greatest presidents we have had have had superior character, principals and judgement.

    It is very very clear, that there is more of a disparity of the character, principals and judgement of these two candidates than ANY two candidates in ANY Presidential or Primary Election.

    Obama’s character is impeccable. Hillary had her hand in making sure so many clear obvious crimes of her and the Clinton’s never saw a jury, because if they did she would be baking cookies in the same place as Martha Stewart. While she had an important role in Bill’s presidency she will not be given the same trust, benefit of the doubt Bill had with the people and the media during his presidency. If she becomes elected president, the three months leading up until her presidency starts she will be in court in Los Angeles, in federal court for a series of felony charges, all factually supported in which her, Bill, Chelsea and others will be testifying. She got into the Senate as a result of the largest campaign finest fraud case in Senate History. She has had her hand in clear obvious felonies for 30 years. She is morally corrupt. The Clinton administration institutionalized corruption.

    As far as principals Obama had the principal to take a stand against Iraq when it was politically unpopular, when he wasn’t asked to take a position as he was then in the Illinois Senate. Nonetheless he gave a clear speech explaiing what would happen in Iraq, what information the American people didn’t have and the uncertainties as a result. This did not help his re-election in State senate or in the US Senate and jeopardized his career. He only attacks Hillary on policy issues and every attact is factual…Hillary can not claim this. Look at his life story, and look at his. He stood up on Iraq because of principal, not because it was popular. She did the inverse. The moral lapses she has had have been consistent throughout this campaign. She comes in 3rd in Iowa, in NH her top campaign people all have to resign for sending out fake spam e-mails perpetuating the myth that Barack is Muslim and won’t pledge allegiance to the American flag…she wins that election….than next one Nevada…..her and Bill throw up a BS lawsuit against the state of Nevada for somehow changing the election rules because voting (as decided 10 months earlier) was in the Casinos and Obama had just got the endorsement of their employees union a week before…at the time she was announced the winner the Clinton’s were trying to get the election’s cancelled…Bill went on TV and to the press saying the election shouldn’t count. Flash forward to the Michigan election, she is the only name on the ballot because she was the only one that went against DNC rules and kept her name on the ballot in this unsanctioned contest, winning 51% of the vote nonetheless….she is going on TV now saying this is a fair contest, no reason why it should not count, and wants to change the rules….same thing in Florida. She also promised she would not visit the state, or call it a victory if she won, she broke both…all candidates promised they wouldn’t campaign and she was the only candidate having groups campaigning for her their. That was immoral. Now she has explicitly said, you can even check on her website that if the current numbers continue, she loses 60% of the delegates, 60% of the vote she has explicitly said SHE WILL NOT CEDE OBAMA THE VICTORY. SHE WILL TRY AND REVERSE THE PEOPLE’S VOTE WITH THE SUPER DELEGATE VOTE. She is also in the process of forming a swiftboat group, getting 100 people to donate $100,000 to raise $10M for a group called American Leadership Council to make attacks on Obama. This is the same woman that lied to national press saying she won the most delegates on Super Tuesday when she clearly lost and still to this date refuses to produce this data they were going off. To those folllowing the delegate count there was never a point in the few hours before her speech she was up, and an estimate that you are up a single delegate out of hundreds of delegates isn’t enough for you to definitively say you won as everyone estimated the numbers to change several delegates in one direction or the other and Obama was up 30. Her campaign director (see ny times 1997) testified that she illegally broke into and illegally stole financial documents from Vince Foster’s office the day after he “committed suicide.” Secret service testimony has her taking the files the same morning he “committed suicide.” She testified she did this on Hillary’s behalf…Hillary refused to testify and this woman suffered hundreds of thousands in legal fees. Her previous campaign head was similarly indicted, on illegally breaking into offices and stealing files. Hillary came up with the “travelgate” scandal, where not only did she try and fire the subordinate that “talked” but she tried to indict him on clearly false charges. This woman is morally corrupt. Her husband partly because his charisma, partly because he was such a great president/politician, partly because our country was doing so well during those years got away with it….Hillary won’t. Please read about the federal trial related to Peter Paul, decide for yourself. This woman tried to get an illegal donation of $100,000 funnelled through a childrens fund in New York State. She has not denied these or any other of the charges and has claimed “I don’t remember” to all the biggest claims. This woman has said “I don’t know” or “I don’t remember” when asked for her role in very serious crimes hundreds of times to federal investigators. She has also refused to go in front of juries in any of these crimes, letting subordinates take the heat. Bill Clinton’s closest friend whose house he has stayed at every trip to LA since he became president in 1992 is Ron Burkle…this guy is completely immoral…this guy and Jim Levine are his two closest business partners now…Jim Levine owns a chain of strip clubs in Chicago, boasts that he was the inventor of the “lap dance.” These two are seen with Clinton at all the fundraising events…and have flown with Clinton on all his foreign trips after leaving office…they are morally corrupt….his right hand man (as Time Magazine cover frames him) Dick Morris, a central figure in the Clinton presidency had to resign caught picking up hookers…This couple is TOXIC. The American people are not ready for any more scandals….A lot of change has to be done and even if Hillary’s plans, and interests are for the best plans, best vision any significant scandal will derail this….There are too many people that want this change to fail, she becomes a huge target…and the young people will immediately pull from supporting her….If Hillary loses the under 30 support completely and the Republican support (who hate her already) she will not have the support to get anything done. As of right now, she will begin her presidency in a California Courthouse for a trial she refuses to discuss with reporters, and has claimed “I don’t remember” to questions whether she was guilty of charges that are bigger than Watergate. Even if she wins, somehow enough will come out she will not be able to lead the country. This woman has a divide and conquer mentality seen in this campaign, she will be a huge target for the republicans.

    Judgement..Look at this campaign for example…who had better judgement? Look at all the results…Look at the Senate records of the two. He consistently stood up to corporate interests, she consistently sided with them. In his first 8 years in the Senate he passed more substantive bills than she has passed in the last 7 years. He past the most significant ethics reform bill ever (that Hillary voted against), most significant anti-lobbying, most significant government transparency bill. She has shown poor judgement in how she has run this campaign. Look at how much she changed her positions on Abortion, Immigration, Torture througout this campaign…When she was up 35 points on every other candidate she assumed she won the Democratic race and wanted to appeal more to conservatives so she took an unconstitutional position on immigration vowing in speeches, debates, on her own site “any person who is here illegally who has committed any crime, will be automatically deported without the opportunity of a trial or legal recourse.” This means an 18 year old latino kid who has a scholarship to Stanford, has been in US sincer age 1, parents are citizens, all 5 siblings born here that was convicted of a minor crime at age 13 like shoplifting will have no opportunity to go in front of a court…similarly if this person is put on the list of people that have committed crimes erronenously (which there will definately be a lot of people on mistakenly) gets automatically deported can’t present this evidence he is wrongly on it? This is unconstitutional…and is coming from a guy whose is not even pro-immigration in the first place. She also to appeal to the Republicans has said she supports torture, after saying she was completely against. Also ironically being the candidate the women support in the largest number, as this great candidate for women is the one Planned Parenthood is telling you not to vote for….they support the three other men on stage over her…and she changed her views on it for political reasons….she also sent out mailers saying Obama was not pro-choice, using her credibility as a woman on womans issues to push bs. These are all FACTS.

    Another thing….her Healthcare plan will have much more fat it in for the HMO’s…she has taken more money from HMO’s than any other senator, and more than any other democrat in public office today…..Her arrogance in how she tried to get past her bill in 1994 not only thwarted future efforts and us having healthcare today (as 14 years later we don’t) but was a central reason why the Democrats lost the House and Senate in 1994….This was the only thing she did in the White House that they will release papers of what she did…She refuses to release the records of what she did in the White House, refuses to mention any accomplishment in Senate, refuses to produce (like other candidates have) her tax returns, while putting $5M of her own funds into the campaign, and not letting people know where that money is coming from. What is she hiding. She promotes experience but refuses to outright compare her Senate record to Obama’s, or publish hers….She wants to take credit for everything done in Clinton’s two terms, except the stuff that doesn’t work.

    Polly said:
    February 21, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Let’s just say all the candidates were very similar on all the issues. I would totally vote for Obama. We are on the brink of world power struggles, with China and North Korea! I attended a special presentation from National Security…. I don’t care about health care, and economy if another country or countries together takes over power of the free world. America is so divisive and self-indulgent, lazy and Obama has brought people together across gender, race, socio-economic, class and partisan lines, that we need to become a stronger America iright away – It is more urgent than y

    Ken and Liz Collins said:
    February 21, 2008 at 11:29 pm

    We are 62 yrs young and Liz and I haven’t been as inspired since JFK , this young man gives hope to all !!
    Sen. Barack Obama is going to bring America back where she should be and that is something we as American’s can depend on !!!,
    We must all work hard to make sure this is achieved and we must all pray for each other every single day and most of all for Sen. Obama and his precious family !!!

    YES WE CAN !!!!!!!!!!

    Tired said:
    February 21, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    I think both canadates are strong. I think Hillary has more experience. HOWEVER.. Why did I find myself during the debate tonight single out every “I” and “Me” pronoun that she used. Sure she spoke in third person throughout the debate, but her body language said it all. She’s so arrogant and full of HERSELF.

    Chad said:
    February 21, 2008 at 11:26 pm

    It’s called a typo Steve. Get over it. And yes we do, that is why most Educate people are liberal. Going to school seems to be much against the Republican way IMO.

    Peterson said:
    February 21, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    oboma rules and showed tonight that he has the ability that we need to bring changes in our country

    Inspired said:
    February 21, 2008 at 10:40 pm

    McCain? OMG! Stick to the subject…we know you Republicans are always thinking about YOUR candidates (since not one of them has the ability to think themselves) but this is a poll about the democratic candidates debate.

    “Obama vs. Clinton – Debate Night!”

    Poor baby…must have gotten lost on his way to McCain’s page or something?

    “Obama 08” “YES WE CAN!” We’re “Fired up and ready to go!”

    Steve said:
    February 21, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    Barack Obama is a very hollow man. He won’t be the next President of the United States. John McCain will.

    armyaunt said:
    February 21, 2008 at 10:15 pm

    Uh Debbie,

    It’s Integrity and honesty.
    You libs ever go to school?

    Debbie said:
    February 21, 2008 at 9:31 pm

    Obama has the intergrity and honest to be our New President of the United States.

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